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08/03/08     NGL TWO Qualifier 2008 / 2009: The participants
16 Teams will attend in the NGL TWO Season 2008 / 2009 Qualifier to grab the four remaining spots in the NGL TWO. The Qualifier will start with round 1 on August 7th while the format will be Double-Elimination. By taking the topseeds n!faculty, Team Apoc and Fair Gaming have to face 13 other teams. The teams have already been chosen and take the following seeds:

1. n!faculty
2. Team Apoc
3. fnatic
4. Millenium
5. Revolution Games
6. bioXar
7. All For One
8. World Elite 09
9. Copenhagen Pro Gamer
10. H2O
11. PGS
12. eXpertise
13. KomaCrew
14. NoWAYouT.Germany
15. Micro Society
16. diamondZ

* Update
After Fair Gaming disbanded we have to replace their team with diamondZ.

* Update 2
Due to missing organisation Team Lyra Family will be replaced with PGS.

Good luck to all participating teams! New teams will be created by the league officials, existing teams have to update their profile and roster until 23:59 CET Wednesday, 6th of August. All teams will receive an email with important information. The First round lasts from 7th (Thursday) to 13th (Wednesday) August.

Comments
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DrunKin
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 19:44/07:44PM CET: #1
gl all teams
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pheenom
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 19:45/07:45PM CET: #2
gl to all
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Souil
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 20:03/08:03PM CET: #3
fair die .... -1 slot ...
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FinToX
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 20:12/08:12PM CET: #4
where nSt?:(
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vCts.Crane
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 20:15/08:15PM CET: #5
yeah yeah, but no quit joking and give us the real list of teams/seedings´^^
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Lyra.fr0dd1k
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 20:16/08:16PM CET: #6
gl all teams
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lgR-EverdyinG
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 20:18/08:18PM CET: #7
disguted...

again
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vCts.Crane
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 20:27/08:27PM CET: #8
hm i think that fair disbanded, the rest is quite alright seeds i guess.. at least not more controversial than those things will always be since different people have different opinions about some teams abilities.
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T]osh`iki
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 20:36/08:36PM CET: #9
I hope for next quali
good luck all
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MaDoKa
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 20:38/08:38PM CET: #10
Good teams this time, Good luck all !
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FinToX
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 20:40/08:40PM CET: #11
Fair => Family^^ , now.

with inter , nicker etc. etc.
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Kola
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 20:41/08:41PM CET: #12
lol All For One , eXpertise.
where nSt, dmZ?
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vCts.Crane
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 20:43/08:43PM CET: #13
lyra gaming = family.lyra i think
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FinToX
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 20:48/08:48PM CET: #14
what's dmZ
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Souil
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 20:52/08:52PM CET: #15
tt not nSt and dmZ .... =\
all game nSt 3:0 , 3:1 win ... and not invite to quali =\
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PovaL
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 21:01/09:01PM CET: #16
Komacrew , expertise out plz nst , dmz in . GL nWo.Ger
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PovaL
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 21:05/09:05PM CET: #17
Omg i forget Fnatic GL!
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Paladyn
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 21:15/09:15PM CET: #18
sorry but wtf is this ? pgs would 4-0 many of those teams ... just n/c
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coolFX
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 21:18/09:18PM CET: #19
?_? team eNvY
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Multick
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 21:20/09:20PM CET: #20
shocked where is dmz? imho dmz more stroner .... .... ..... .... teams, sry
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PovaL
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 21:32/09:32PM CET: #21
Gj with dmz , and now plz nSt replacing some1 . Speccially team like expertise .
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DooKi
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 21:35/09:35PM CET: #22
thanks poval love you too
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Only-
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 21:37/09:37PM CET: #23
envy is a joke?
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cHrIzZi
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 21:40/09:40PM CET: #24
the teams all are good. perfect decision
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losemann
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 21:41/09:41PM CET: #25
good luck in the qualifier
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eGp.Tt.rE
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 21:51/09:51PM CET: #26
wtf is this ;o
H2O ? no scores, no good players (they were in the past but now they are very weak) and got spot in the quali? nice joke :)
GL CPG, eX - and MsY are free points for other teams imo .. and the mighty team apoc wont be existin more than 1.5 montch so anyway u gonna have to replace them next season :) GL
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grAyf0x
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 21:54/09:54PM CET: #27
Poval, hulk just messaged me on msn how sad he was because no good luck from you to him..
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HowWeDo
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 21:58/09:58PM CET: #28
#23 what do you mean?
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iP.SimpleR
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 21:59/09:59PM CET: #29
When the grid will be announced?
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Locke
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:00/10:00PM CET: #30
Dear NGL-Crew, I hope you will not consider this as an offense in any way, because it is no offense at all.
It is rather constructive criticism, which every league should be happy about. So how to start, maybe a generall question;
do you care about the WPL at all? Having a look at your list of teams and afterwards having a look at the WPL Qualifier
i just get the feeling that your list cant be appropriate at all. Sure it is easy for you to argue with the well known fact of two
competely different playing-systems. Still you need some facts to base your deliberate decision on. So now people might
think you can find facts like these in the earlier mentioned WPL Qualifier, since the list of teams is quite similar. So let´s take
a look at some teams the NGL accepted and how these teams performed in the WPL Qualifier. First of all we have H2O, as the
tenth seed. Yes of course, they got the legendary Shortround in their team, but still they had a clear lose against CPG and
forfeited almost an entire clanwar against BVG. Next team is eXpertise, beeing one of the most overestimated teams altogether.
They proved this not only in the frequently mentioned WPL Qualifier, but also in the WC3L Qualifier. Last but not least,
you also accepted Micro Society to your Qualifier, which is, to tell the truth, a complete joke. In the first round of the
WPL Qualifier they lost 3:2 to AFoS ( a team most NGL user don´t even know I guess), not only them losing to this team
should be a clear sign for you to see that they probably don´t have the level for the NGL, they even had 2 defwins in this war,
still they weren´t able to take the victory home.

On the other hand there are teams like Legionnaire, beeing a WPL 2 and also a new TFL team. Also a team like nSt, newly
TFL and WPL 2 team, beeing able to take down n! in the WPL 2 Qualifier. Of course i also have to mention diamondZ,
even though you added them now, there sseed is clearly too low and it´s a farce that you didnt take them originally.
For these teams i surely know that they applied, so i can only criticize you due to them missing in your list. Other teams like
1fall certainly deserved a spot, I am not sure if they applied though.

I hope one of your admins has got the time and courage to answer on this quite long post.
All the others feel free to flame me for having too much time etc.
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PovaL
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:02/10:02PM CET: #31
Fuck i forget about you guys , but you know how i love Portugal and San Diego!
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eGp.Tt.rE
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:04/10:04PM CET: #32
Locke but WPL is bo3 and ngl is korean style league so i think more they should care about leagues with korean style of gaming.
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grAyf0x
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:06/10:06PM CET: #33
You're not talking about WGL are you rE -__-

The only league thats koth style besides NGL worth mentioning is WHL (yes, this is a brag :D)
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RG-HULK
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:07/10:07PM CET: #34
gl and gogo POVAL and Grayfox byagaga
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flabbert
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:08/10:08PM CET: #35
no excello? :(
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Sap
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:12/10:12PM CET: #36
No EnVy (WPL-1 and TFL), No nSt (WHL, TFL and WPL-2), No PGS (WHL), No WeRRa

AHUAHUAHUAHAUH FUNNY ADMINS!
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TargA
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:12/10:12PM CET: #37
eid.
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eGp.Tt.rE
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:15/10:15PM CET: #38
EnVy is inactive, p1nke aca hopez, fizix left, no envy :)

im not grayf0x, im talkin about whl
of cours it counts only to the last seeds bcuz, 1st seeds are very easy to predict, not even need to look on leagues like fntc... but teams like H2O or Msy are just a joke
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Souil
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:15/10:15PM CET: #39
tt ....
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Sap
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:19/10:19PM CET: #40
#38
P1nke and aca are back from vacation...
Aone is playing 24/7 @ season 6
The others are playings too
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KriMiNaL
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:21/10:21PM CET: #41
althought i love usa(nothing personal to my friends in msy) i have no clue why msy got accepted. That goes for h2o too, imo they have been under performing with the players they have. imo teams like nst or werra or pgs should have been in. (would have said dmz too but they got in already)
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eGp.Tt.rE
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:21/10:21PM CET: #42
cool so u got p1nke.... aone and ............... :)
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MaDoKa
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:22/10:22PM CET: #43
eGp.Tt.rE, cant you release a book for us or something about your opinions :) ?.. You seems to have a lot to talk about ;).. Please quit all that trash-talk about how good / bad all teams are.. really anoying!
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HowWeDo
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:27/10:27PM CET: #44
EnVy is for sure not inactive. Me, p1nke, AoNe, Panic, OC + caff & gotz as new players...
Seems like playing in WPL-1, WHL, TFL, and showing good results is not enough for admins
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HowWeDo
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:28/10:28PM CET: #45
Oh, and i forgot Illumize who's playing great recently
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eGp.Tt.rE
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:28/10:28PM CET: #46
MaDoKa i just know very well teams im talkin about (MsY, apoc, EnVy) expecially apoc team is my favourite with source aka i was in WE.IGE i got bilions ^^
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MaDoKa
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:30/10:30PM CET: #47
#48 And you know Source ?, dont think you do really.. Every rumor i heard about him is far away from true since he made proof that he is doing well in that team im in and im happy with that, and btw for the other teams I can say EnVy is not bad and they have shown results you might have ignored ?
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eGp.Tt.rE
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:33/10:33PM CET: #48
i know him very well, i was with him in the team :) and also apoc lost becks and fury week after made up, givin an info that fury got kicked what was a false :)
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MaDoKa
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:34/10:34PM CET: #49
#50 Okay, I'm not gonna argue with you, since your not intern you know better than me yes ? ;)
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eGp.Tt.rE
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:35/10:35PM CET: #50
Sap, so u won 2x the 2v2 team, once won AoNe and the other 1v1 games was won by FiZiX and HopeZ that arent in the team since 3 montchs, pretty nice proofe
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eGp.Tt.rE
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:36/10:36PM CET: #51
MaDoKa apoc orga said, source kicked fury, and on MYM site was annoucment of Fury where he did say that he left the team bcuz of money cheat
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MaDoKa
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:38/10:38PM CET: #52
#51. I'm not really into what happend with Fury, what matters atm is that everybody else in team get what they are supposed to have and all got that so nothing to bitch about, means all rumors are not correct ;) ?
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Sap
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:50/10:50PM CET: #53
24 Teams...
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vCts.Crane
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 22:53/10:53PM CET: #54
well i think that the team to take on the winner of 2nd seed vs 15th seed (apoc vs msy) will be pleased to see their bracket.
Now the seeds are out so u cant change anything with ure long posts. If ure applications didnt impress the admins enough to let ure team in, well then its just tough luck now :/
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RG-HULK
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 23:01/11:01PM CET: #55
#54.. we just won you.. and you still talk crap about our team..
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Paladyn
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 23:10/11:10PM CET: #56
hello admin ? pgs 4-1 ed team expertise in whl qualis ... its ngl system and they are here on 12th place ... why not pgs than ? and wtf is team diamondZ ? :D XDDDD
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eGp.Tt.rE
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 23:11/11:11PM CET: #57
dmZ is a good one, much better than 3 -4 teams here Paladyn. Players like Roll, Multick, Twin or Doj... look on wc3l quali even.
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Paladyn
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 23:13/11:13PM CET: #58
wow xD too bad you cant compare those players with pgs players .... dunno why never any polish team get a chance here ? pgs has stable organisation , stable players etc etc , you are sure pgs wont disband wtf is that :D
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Redouane
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 23:18/11:18PM CET: #59
expertise is the most overrated team ever, even we (HDx) beat them @ wpl, u just took them because they are chinese
n/c @ MsY, nSt are far better
and oh H2O rofl what a joke
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HenL
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 23:26/11:26PM CET: #60
While I think this list is pretty weird, flaming other teams won't get you anywhere Paladyn.
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vCts.Crane
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 23:31/11:31PM CET: #61
#55, actually that is more saying that apoc isnt a worthy 2nd seed.. cuz meeting winner of 2nd vs 15th seed usually mean u will be meeting the supposedly 2nd best team in the qualifier.. thats not the case here imo.

i guess u just see what u want to see.
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RG-HULK
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 23:39/11:39PM CET: #62
#61, you are right.. just got wrong feeling after the cw. This happens often though that the best new team is better than the last place requalifying team. Nothing new here.
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Sasuke
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 23:40/11:40PM CET: #63
H2O, eX and MsY out and nSt, lgR, eNvy in wouldve been nice :s Also, the seeds are pretty damn bad.

Anyways, go RG! Go FIST BABY U CAN DO IT FFS.
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Multick
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 23:45/11:45PM CET: #64
btw nst realy strong last time , id like to see them in ngl, i shocked when see no dmz/nst/ and yes mb polish players pgs , vs ex/msy/h20 But! not always strong players like paladyn or others win to be in quali, need be real team stabiling mannering and with TEAM-results
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MaDoKa
wrote at Sun - Aug 03 2008, 23:50/11:50PM CET: #65
#64 Agree. The qualy teams are pretty well from the admins opinions I think.
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ThorZaIN
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 00:25/12:25AM CET: #66
KOMACREW, GOGOO Lefy fighting!
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CrunCher
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 00:30/12:30AM CET: #67
matta ak every team
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s1cK
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 00:37/12:37AM CET: #68
ROFL?!
wtf... where nSt?
at the moment we playing very strong ôÔ and not qualified -.-

Sorry but "Micro Society or H20" out and "NewStyleTeam" in! ^^
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sHikaka
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 02:16/02:16AM CET: #69
Why is it such a joke MsY and H2O made it? both have players capable of playing in this league.. maybe its because they are american. mb take a look whos on the team, KEEP NST OUT AND KEEP MSY H2O, MUCH BETTER ANYWAYS.

gl MsY H2O
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Plec
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 03:27/03:27AM CET: #70
Joke.
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sHikaka
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 03:55/03:55AM CET: #71
nope 100% serious.
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Pride-
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 06:25/06:25AM CET: #72
Maybe jelousy, maybe anger.. maybe troll??
GL to teams.
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iggy-
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 06:28/06:28AM CET: #73
We (H2O) are generally a lot better in the NGL-style format of league. If you look at our 3rd place finish in WHL you'd see that.
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Pride-
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 06:36/06:36AM CET: #74
no, me h2o
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sHikaka
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 06:39/06:39AM CET: #75
fucking iggy > all in ngl duhh
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LGcY_BuUz
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 06:49/06:49AM CET: #76
wow shikaka is not shit talking us for once :)
gl to all teams ^^
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HDx]MaRe
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 08:55/08:55AM CET: #77
MsY and KomaCrew are suprise , but gl to them , but I have one question , why is Apoc seeded over fntc :D
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HowWeDo
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 09:38/09:38AM CET: #78
kinda stupid question, but how can i check team's profile?
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PovaL
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 09:42/09:42AM CET: #79
KC ,expertise out , nSt , Werra (chempion WPL-2 ,Chempion WCIP season2, 3-1 0-3 3-1 with nWo in final) IN for more interesting games . P.S. nWo cares about ngl-2 and wc3 xD.
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RG-HULK
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 09:51/09:51AM CET: #80
poval.. everyone loves you ffs..
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iP.SimpleR
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 10:01/10:01AM CET: #81
#77
You should read the rules be4 posting such smart comments xD
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PovaL
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 10:56/10:56AM CET: #82
#80 FUCK i want live in SAN DIEGO!
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eXtremeKost
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 11:10/11:10AM CET: #83
nSt showed great results last months, they should be in that qualifier :/
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RG-HULK
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 11:10/11:10AM CET: #84
YOU ARE INVITED BYAGAGA
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PovaL
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 11:26/11:26AM CET: #85
#83 True!
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HowWeDo
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 12:25/12:25PM CET: #86
@ PovaL: Werra merged with NGTV or? :>
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eGp.Tt.rE
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 13:07/01:07PM CET: #87
ngtv guys joined werra ( or left ngtv as u like)
PGS with top8 world wcg and top1 Euro Cup players didnt make it and MsY or eX did xDD
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PovaL
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 13:30/01:30PM CET: #88
Werra is a b.net clan -team like u want , yes they are not now with ngtv +they are lost michel . Anyway their plairs strong enough for this quali like nst guys .
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CaLypSo)
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 14:08/02:08PM CET: #89
Werra is not wpl-2 champion, it's DI @ wicked now, then if MsY and H2O are here it's because NGL is a world league so they took teams all over the world, so they picked american european and asian teams, it's all.
they surely decided longtime ago how many european teams will be chosen, and for me nSt dont have the level in this qualif to be chosen like one of the best european team, even komacrew is better than them, besides they already played regular season and last qualifs as mymF. so expertise has been chosen to represent a chinese and asian team, same for h2o and msy who are here to represent american teams, i think ngl admins are already very nice to pick so many european teams. the only thing with i agree is about PGS, but if they didnt pick them they surely have a reason and i think the story about pgs - ngize is surely one of the fact of their choice.
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CaLypSo)
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 14:13/02:13PM CET: #90
i could add poval, you whine about h2o msy and almost about komacrew, but you dont whine about nwo.ger, because if KC hasn't his place here so nwo.ger hasn't it too, be objectiv before whining admin choice, after getting a wc3L slot thanks to 1000 dibands i think it's a bit abuse to whine now about something now :)
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FinToX
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 14:26/02:26PM CET: #91
exellent fun reading all comments :) u made my day guys ! ! ! specially the whiners..
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PovaL
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 16:24/04:24PM CET: #92
#90 no need such a wise words from you , i think u'll never understand why some teams in and some out ... I just fooling around here and try to help nSt , coz think that they are rly n1 team . And you are talking like some king of fucking expert or smth like that .
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HowWeDo
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 16:50/04:50PM CET: #93
'you are talking like some king of fucking expert'
:))))))))
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PovaL
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 16:56/04:56PM CET: #94
#93 ok again : Fucking king of experts xD
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Gerila
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 16:58/04:58PM CET: #95
Yeah that was very manly of you to erase my post, freedom of speech fighting.
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CaLypSo)
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 17:02/05:02PM CET: #96
"fucking"? and u dont my wise words? i think after this child speech you did, you really need to learn from me, btw you can only learn from an inactiv guy with a real life, thats all you are not so yea learn !
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PovaL
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 17:14/05:14PM CET: #97
#96 about what real life u talking loool ? Told me , show me fotos plz , u can come to my icq , u knew my number , roflmao .
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sPiCy
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 19:18/07:18PM CET: #98
hahah valentin teh real kind no1 can beat him rl!
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TammY
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 22:57/10:57PM CET: #99
gl to CPG / A1 !
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CaLypSo)
wrote at Mon - Aug 04 2008, 23:21/11:21PM CET: #100
#97 stop joking please, i just want to say you have not to whine about admin decision, i think you know ngl admins and they are not stupid guys, they know nSt is a good team and if they didnt choose them they surely have a good reason. and like i said it's really subjectiv to whine about teams like KC etc... when your ger squad got a slot.... so u already have a team in NGL2, maybe let the place of ur second squad for nSt, it will be very fair from you ;) i think 2nd squad should be the lastest team to get a slot and let place for team who wants to prove their skill. GL to all i hope a good way for teams about guys whined like KC H2O MsY etc... and GL millenium ofc
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RG-HULK
wrote at Tue - Aug 05 2008, 00:34/12:34AM CET: #101
Valentin "Poval" ???, director of Insurance Company fighting.
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hmk-4
wrote at Tue - Aug 05 2008, 04:03/04:03AM CET: #102
gogo msy!
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PovaL
wrote at Tue - Aug 05 2008, 09:00/09:00AM CET: #103
#101 AAAAAAAA xD . GL to nWo.ger , RG , MSY , Luke , Kaspa and Kemper ofc
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MaDoKa
wrote at Tue - Aug 05 2008, 10:41/10:41AM CET: #104
Agree with ToX :D.. These comments make my day :D!. Valentin I hope you will show up and cheer some ;)
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